Bruce (kor27) wrote in 365jesus,

The End?

This is a response to this post, which is itself a response to this one.

I believe, m'dear, that we've pretty much run this subject down. We could keep bouncing evolution arguments back and forth, but as you've pointed out yourself, they're actually irrelevant.

I know that if there were any kind of serious challenge to the theory of evolution, the scientific world would be all a-twitter, but all I hear about is the finding of fossils that fill in yet more intermediate stages in development.

However, again, evolution really is only a "threat" to biblical literalists. It's unclear why, since they've already had to come to terms with the earth not being flat. Most of them even admit the earth goes around the sun...

We come down, in the end, to exactly what I expected: A draw. People have been arguing these points for centuries. One of the major philosophical pursuits through the late middle ages, and leading into the 19th century, was an attempt to prove the existence of God. It's always failed, but then, so has the disproof side.

Still, it's been a fun exercise. I've done a better job of formulating why I think an intelligent primary cause is unlikely, and also why I can't believe in an all-powerful, all-knowing, benevolent entity.

However, again, I can't disprove the existence of a God, and no-one's been able to prove or disprove the existence of Jesus. Apart from the records written a hundred years later, he's pretty badly documented. Pieces of his life seem to be lifted wholesale from other, earlier religions. But then, documentation could be pretty spotty two thousand years ago.

And I certainly can't prove or disprove the existence of a powerful, but subtle, entity that calls itself Jesus. I don't personally have experience with such, and I know we, as humans, can easily project what we want to experience outside of ourselves, but I can't deny the potential existence of such. And, believe it or not, I don't have the hubris to think I'm the most powerful or intelligent being in the universe.

I hope this was fun for you, dear. I'm pretty happy with the result - if I'd actually thought it was possible to convert you, I wouldn't have played. While I like to shake people up a bit, knocking their foundations out from under them is, well, only justifiable in the prevention of great evil. And this whole discussion started from my commenting that your church gave me no such feelings.

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